I'd like to see academic DevOps one day - with Amitai (Explorium)

Oof, there are so many interesting parts in this conversation - we talk about:

1. How DevOps needs to become an academic discipline

2. How Amitai started a successful open-source process around right-sizing

3. GUIs and why UX matters in dev tools

4. Where open-source and DevOps are headed

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